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Emulation Overkill by Roxor128 Emulation Overkill by Roxor128
This goes Beyond The Impossible.

Here we have Super Mario Bros running inside a NES emulator, running inside DOSBox, running inside a Windows XP virtual machine, running on a Windows 7 real PC.

And guess what?

The game is still playable!

Yes, even with all that emulation and virtualisation overhead, the game is still playable. If I hadn't tried it for myself, I wouldn't believe it was possible.

Host system:
Quad-core Phenom II 955, 3.2GHz
4GB RAM
GeForce GTX285 graphics card
Windows 7 x64
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:icondeusix:
DeusIX Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You do know that there are easier ways to achieve things. ;)
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:iconroxor128:
Roxor128 Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ha ha! True. I actually had to do a bit of hunting in order to find an NES emulator for DOS. They're pretty scarce these days (programs for DOS, that is). Of course, the whole purpose of doing this is just showing off what's possible with modern computers.
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:icondeusix:
DeusIX Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I heard that you like emulators, so I put emulators in your emulators!

One more serious note, you might be intrested in my latest deviation...
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:iconthebronzegryphon:
TheBronzeGryphon Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2011  Professional Writer
Now I want to see you do that... inside a "Parallels" Windows emulator on a Macintosh.
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:iconroxor128:
Roxor128 Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Sorry, I don't own a Mac. Just x86_64 PC hardware. I suppose I could replace the Windows XP virtual machine with one running Linux, though, if only to get a bit more variety in the operating systems in use.

If I were to add another layer of emulation, or emulate anything more complex at the bottom level, the results would be too slow to be usable. You could say that the point of this image is to show the current limit of usable emulation depth. Still, four levels is pretty impressive.
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:iconananonymuscat:
AnAnonymusCat Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2011
Oh. my. god. That is beyond the impossible. Favorite to you.
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:iconroxor128:
Roxor128 Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I wouldn't be surprised if you can buy a new computer and pull this off now.
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:iconananonymuscat:
AnAnonymusCat Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2011
huh? why would I need a new computer, I got just last year. I even got to put it together.
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:iconroxor128:
Roxor128 Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, if it's that recent, you can probably pull it off now.
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:iconananonymuscat:
AnAnonymusCat Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2011
Yeah. Just need to get all the emulators...
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:iconmax300:
Max300 Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
goddammit stop linking to tvtropes

you're going to trap us all YOU FOOL
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:iconroxor128:
Roxor128 Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
TV Tropes: enhancing lives one tab at a time. :)
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:iconmax300:
Max300 Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
oh lawd
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:iconroxor128:
Roxor128 Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
For the record, I wrote entry number 203 on You Know You Read Too Much TV Tropes When, and I'm guilty of it. 52/222 open tabs are TV Tropes.
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:iconmax300:
Max300 Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
oh lawd.
I have progessed from having 50 tabs open on tvtropes
to having TWO windows open, with bout 80 tabs EACH

I do some silly editing every so often though :P
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:iconroxor128:
Roxor128 Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Chances are the number will drop as you get familiar with the most common tropes.
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:iconmax300:
Max300 Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
I spend my days trying to get through indexes lol
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:iconjapamala:
Japamala Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
why is the XP machine not running virtualbox running linux, with the emulator running through wine?
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:iconroxor128:
Roxor128 Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Two parts to that answer:

1. This covers all the emulation platforms I have which can be used for, lacking a better term, recursive emulation.

2. This much recursion is a strain on my processor. If I added another level (especially something as complex as Linux) the NES game would be unplayable, and it's slow at this point. Things could be worse, though. That same NES emulator running under MS-DOS on a real 486DX/33 is so slow it's pretty-much unplayable.
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:iconaealtrus:
aealtrus Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2010  Hobbyist Filmographer
Windows 7 > XP Mode > Virtual Machine (Linux) > DOSBox > NES Emulator

Would be even further.
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:iconroxor128:
Roxor128 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
While I'm sure that would be technically possible, it would be so slow it would be unusable.

I've tried using Windows 98 in a virtual machine and it's a bit sluggish. To be honest, I'm not sure why XP runs faster in the virtual machine that 98.
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:iconbabyangelcake:
BabyAngelCake Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
...damn
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:iconroxor128:
Roxor128 Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Don't tell me you never considered trying it yourself. :)
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:iconbabyangelcake:
BabyAngelCake Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
okay fine fine fine
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:iconxiphon-iii:
Xiphon-III Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2010
I do believe you have arned my respect. Amazing. I honor you, good knight of the digital table. Your efforts have been recognized.
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:iconroxor128:
Roxor128 Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
To be honest, I'm surprised I'm not getting a bunch of comments saying "Hey, cool. You tried that as well!".
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:iconxiphon-iii:
Xiphon-III Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2010
Hehe, yeah, honestly, I am as well...
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:iconkevin-020:
Kevin-020 Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2010
Ho-lee shit.
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:iconroxor128:
Roxor128 Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Just goes to show how much computing power is available now compared to 25 years ago.
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:iconuseraccount:
useraccount Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2010
Hope your computer doesn't blow up from the Explosive Overclocking.
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:iconroxor128:
Roxor128 Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No need to worry about that. My system isn't overclocked at all.
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:iconnewtonthenewt:
newtonthenewt Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"Wow" is all I have to say.
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:iconroxor128:
Roxor128 Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's faster than the same emulator on a real 486DX/33, but still slower than a native Windows emulator. Either way, I still suck at the game.
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:iconnewtonthenewt:
newtonthenewt Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Me too.
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:icondarkangelsv1:
Darkangelsv1 Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yo Dawg! We heard you like emulation! So we put an emulator in your emulator so you can play while you play.
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:iconroxor128:
Roxor128 Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Somehow I was expecting that particular piece of Memetic Mutation to show up sooner or later. :)
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:icondarkangelsv1:
Darkangelsv1 Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And you just keep Potholing every single link, right? This isn't the wiki to try and go for All Blue Entry. Or, All Grey Entry... Whatever...

Hmmm...

ChekhovsGun. Nope, CamelCase won't work.
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:iconroxor128:
Roxor128 Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes, I definitely read too much TV Tropes. More than 20% of my browser tabs are TV Tropes, and the total is a three-digit number (#203 on You Know You Read Too Much TV Tropes When, which I added).
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:icondarkangelsv1:
Darkangelsv1 Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
There's only one way to settle this...


...:iconhahayeahplz:
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:iconeffit:
Effit Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2010
:iconthumbsupplz:
That said, I wish my PS2 emulator would work at all.
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:iconroxor128:
Roxor128 Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Give the developers time. They'll get it working eventually.
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:iconeffit:
Effit Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2010
I think it's a problem on my end, though.
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:iconroxor128:
Roxor128 Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Always a possibility.
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:iconserperoth:
Serperoth Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2010
EPICNESS!!!

*bows*
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:iconroxor128:
Roxor128 Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Don't let me stop you from trying it yourself.
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:iconserperoth:
Serperoth Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2010
:) I'd try but my PC would implode. Maybe after I format/fix some things... *goatee*
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:iconroxor128:
Roxor128 Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, it can't hurt to try.
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:iconserperoth:
Serperoth Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2010
Nope, that it can't:)
But yeah I think I'll wait... To make my plan... COMPLETE! *evil laughter*
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:iconroxor128:
Roxor128 Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What troper is complete without at least the thought of an Evil Plan?
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:iconserperoth:
Serperoth Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2010
A troper who's not evil?:P
Although to be a troper you have to be at least a frequent dweller of the Internet (s optional), which leaves one everything but innocent... So every troper has at least an inkling of evil in them!
Man, I should WAKE UP before TALKING TO PEOPLE. I keep forgetting to do that.
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